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July 27, 2005

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Mark Daniels

Another good post, Tamar.

I suppose someone could read my response to Richard's original excellent post and think that I disdained the question, "How are you really?" entirely.

Not so. There just seems to be a potential fundamental difference between on the one hand, a person sending that one-sentence question in an email to someone with whom there has been little or no contact for a long time and on the other hand, the sort of thoughtful telephone call made by your nephew.

Furthermore, I've experienced more than a few people who use that question or ones like it as a means of showing themselves insightful and wise rather than to really express concern for others or a desire for deep, meaningful relationships with them.

Does that make sense?

I love your blog and hope that you stick with it for as long as it brings joy and fulfillment to you.

Mark

Richard Lawrence Cohen

Thank you, Tamar, for taking my baton and running another fast lap with it. T.'s response to the one-line email is very much what mine was: the sender is saying, "I'm not really doing that well myself. Please get in touch."

Your own response -- feeling warm and safe -- is so loving and admirable that it's a little beyond me. Or put it this way: the sender and I have enjoyed a long friendship that's been full of mixed feelings and mixed messages. In that context, it wouldn't seem to me that the question was a pure expression of caring concern. Especially when the message is a response to signs that things are going well for me.

It's hard to discuss this without revealing more details than I want to about the person involved, etc. The context is very important. It's because of lack of context, I think, that Mark overemphasized the shallow nature of the question "How are you?" When asked by this friend, the question takes on depths.

But this part of Mark's comment seems very perceptive: "I've experienced more than a few people who use that question or ones like it as a means of showing themselves insightful and wise rather than to really express concern for others or a desire for deep, meaningful relationships with them."

Tamar

Yes I agree, Richard. The context of a communication like that is crucial in understanding or knowing what the sender or friend was intending. I ran another lap with your post because it struck a chord in me, reminding me how I often forget to tell people how I am for the reasons mentioned above. For example I remember being amazed when observing people close to me who were shocked or astounded when I separated from my husband. They had never known anything was wrong because all I ever said was, "Oh, just fine, thanks."

Mark,
I didn't think you replied at Richard's site with disdain at all. The whole conversation got me thinking and self-absorbedly navel-gazing again about my in and out of confidence self. That's where I agree with you about Richard's "excellent" posts. He always gets me thinking. Thanks so much for your kind words about my blog. Very much appreciated.

adriana bliss

Very interesting post, Tamar. A wonderful connecting piece to RLC's entry. I think the interpretations by everyone who commented all have validity. In the end, I suppose the "real" meaning of the "really" notation depends on the person, the context, the tone. For me, I've heard the phrase before and I've always taken it as "getting caught." In other words, I'm being told that the show I'm putting on isn't working, that the jig is up, that they don't believe me. And I've usually been a little...offended maybe. Perhaps my interpretation is more in line with Mark's take.

Tamar

When I read your comment, Adriana, as well as Richard's saying that "it's a little beyond me," I realize that I probably sound a little naive. But of course, as you say, it's all about the context, tone and relationship one has with the person. Interesting that you feel caught!

Jean

Warmest hugs and deepest comprehension to you, Tamar, and to my fellow Londoner who emailed you.

Tamar

Jean, Thank you.

adriana bliss

I don't think you're naive, perhaps some of us out there are just more cynical than you! Also, there's the matter of guilt...indeed I feel caught because generally speaking, to people who might ask, I have been hiding the truth of my well-being.

Tamar

Ah yes, and then we all have the choice not to tell what we don't want to or to whom we want to - or not - and when.

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