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November 13, 2005

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Winston

Tamar,
You say "I know that most of us have been taught that even to think about about our childhood is an act of betrayal to our parents."

I feel for you having to suffer that indignity, which is the way I interpret it. I cannot imagine such and was not taught any such thing. Perhaps it is a cultural trait?

I'm groping and grasping here because I really have no basis for understanding, yet must reject the notion because it is so alien and wrong sounding to me.

Tamar

Winston, I corrected it from "most" to "many," and added the word "negatively" which might clarify what I meant. I am genuinely and truly happy for you that you have not had to suffer such an indignity, are unable to grasp that it is like that for others, and feel it is alien and wrong, therefore rejecting that notion. I would not say it is a cultural trait, instead it probably cuts across different cultures.

Through my personal life experience, work with children and families, many different friendships and acquaintances, and even through the stories shared with me via e-mails this past week, I am able to accept this notion.

Joel Sax

I think a problem is that the medium has been co-opted by bloggers who seek to become political pundits. A few have managed to become so and that fuels the others.

But look closely at this cluster of individuals and you will find a storm of impersonal speech and invective. They don't want to talk about their own life experience because, I think, they have things to hide.

Some of these things shouldn't be hidden -- not because we deserve to know about them and weigh our judgements about them accordingly -- but because the hiding promotes stigmas that harm others. I believe I've detected, for example, more than one fine blogger who suffers from bipolar disorder. Ultimately that diagnosis should be made by a doctor. Nevertheless, what does it help any of us for some of us to hide as if that meant that they were persons of lesser character and lesser intelligence?

OK, I am on my high horse again and riding it hard. But I don't believe that facing the details of one's life helps establish credibility. At least not with me.

Another problem could be that these writers fear details. Their details. What they look like. Deep down, they fear that they don't have much to say. And so they repeat the same themes without break. I understand that advocacy often entails repetition, but the surest cure is changing the subject.

Even if I see someone who writes about her garden all the time, I wonder: what is the big issue that you don't want to confront?

Bloggers can become like this schizoaffective I know who will go on and on for hours about the food he ate, the people he talked to, etc. without ever once facing the questions of real life. If you challenge him, he will tell you that he does it to avoid the shit of his life. So he is addicted to his episodes. And going nowhere fast.

Many bloggers seem to follow his course. They don't talk about the shit of their life past or present, regardless. Instead they take it out on others -- either public figures or other bloggers. And they can't stop.

But I will. Right here.

Brenda

"A calm came over me that felt warm, comforting, inclusive." I loved that, just when you were about to flee (once again). But you didn't. You were welcomed. I love that feeling of belonging, too. We all do. It's what we should be offereing to each other without question daily. But we're also fragile and senstive and easily hurt. And perhaps self-protection is over protection. I don't know the answers to these questions. One time, though, I did a lot of work on the 'root' chakra, specific yoga exercises, meditations and chants, guided visualizations, and what I mostly felt when I'd finished a session (I was doing them on my own, writing down what I experienced for my yoga training) was exactly what you describe, "calm...warm, comforting, inclusive." And so perhaps that sense of warm, nurturing connectedness is what it means to 'be grounded.' And if 'being grounded' is feeling warm, comforted, connected, whole and serene, then perhaps that is the 'Ground of Being' itself... xo

Tamar

Brenda,
Yes! Being grounded. I have done a lot of work with bioenergetics in the past and that's a concept within too. I like how you turn it into the "ground of being."

Joel, I think there is place for all kinds of topics in the blogosphere. I have chosen to "reveal my personal" side because I have been needing to work through some heavy issues and found the blog to be a good venue for that. I have found that having feedback for some of my thoughts and feelings, positive or negative, has helped me work it all out. It is a great feeling when someone *believes* me. Am not trying to "establish credibility" with all bloggers out there. When I spread out my personal explorations and look at them written in black and white, I allow myself to believe them finally for myself.

Sometimes a reader recognizes something about themselves in what I share and sometimes, as in the case with Winston here, definitely not.

And that's okay too.

Richard Lawrence Cohen

Tamar, A saving grace of my upbringing was that there was no taboo on honest discussion of our problems. This was first of all because my mother was a psychiatric social worker and therapy buff; second of all because my parents were so openly hostile to each other that it would have been impossible to hide their feelings. To explore the negative was our family pastime -- for better and worse. There was no betrayal because we weren't taught that there was anything to betray.

Re Winston's comment: If dread of unpleasant truths is a cultural trait, I don't think it's a Jewish one.

Joel Sax

Yes, I agree that there is room for all kinds of topics, but the onslaught of political blogging tends to delegitimize other kinds of blogging.

People get to my page and say "What is this? Poetry next to political discussion? What kind of loon do we have here?"

Well, I will just get on with being me. It's a low night.

Tamar

Joel, I know. Sometimes the political bloggers overwhelm me too!

Richard,
Yes, I know what you mean by by being openly hostile. I experienced that too. It is just taboo with some members of my family to openly question or discuss my memories *if* it might lead to the notion that my mother was not a good parent - which is not the purpose of the exploration.

Sherry Stewart

A sense of belonging.....so natural, and we struggle for it because the truth is we aren't alone. We are one, but the sense of separation, wow it can cause so much angst.

My lost lost cousin and I have connected, he is bigger than me, older, suddenly I feel a sense of safety that I had lost along with all my family members that died by the time I was 32.

I can't believe the change, Oh yes, it may in part be the estrogen patch, loving new friends, books that remind me that I am a "child of the Universe, no less than the trees and the stars."

I am happy to hear of your connection, I can feel what that feels like, because I know how mine feels to me.

Love your blog as always!

Tamar

Sherry, Yes, that sense of belonging ... so important. I always fought it, pretending I didn't want or need it. It's a relief realizing how much I do. Allows me to reach out, which seems to take so much courage for me. Good news for you about connecting with your cousin.

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