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April 09, 2006

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Milt

I hadn't thought much about anger until now. I suddenly realize that's one emotion I have not experienced of late. I'll have to think on that.

Chancy

Wow !!!
Your post struck a nerve with me. I too have times when I feel angry and I cannot figure out what the anger is all about. And mistaking anger for hunger, I had never thought about that either.

I have a book called "The Dance of Anger" and in it Harriet Lerner, a Psychologist at the Menninger Clinic says when we are angry it means that we have needs that are not being met.

And this comment on Amazon about the book states:

"In this book, Lerner treats anger as a signal that something is going wrong. She explains that only when we address the "something wrong" in a useful way will the anger go away.

Tamar Thanks. I plan to print your insightful post and reread it many times.

goldenlucyd

While I believe that anger stems from unmet needs I think we must be very careful to sort out which of those needs are healthy and which are trying to kill us. Don't have time to write more at this moment but that's the rub with me...

Great post and comments my friends! Let's have a real week.
love,
lucyd

goldenlucyd

PS
Tamar, re the Tamarika that was loved only for being Sephardic---that's the yetzer talking: "I am your best friend...I want to be with you always...I want to destroy you not only in the next world but here, everyday...You know you can't REALLY believe anyone but me...I am your best friend..."
Oh yes, me and the yetzer have it out every day.
I just remind myself that like everything in creation, me and the yetzer are one. So I just try not to pay "him" no-never-mind cause GD knows I don't pay much attention to my own good sense.

Perhaps this all sounds like metaphorical clap-trap. I just know it works for me.
Oh, great! now I'm REALLY late!
lucy

Richard Lawrence Cohen

Very interesting post; I'm going to forward it to my wife, who does research into teaching practices and teachers' learning.

I have been thinking a lot lately about anger in my own life, and while I'm loath ever to make gender generalizations, I think that in contrast to women, who often express anger as sadness, men often express sadness as anger.

Sky

Wow! This post has given me pause. Perhaps my weight issues are related to anger - the hunger v.s. anger relationship you mention. Thank you so much for this post. I will probe deeply into my own life to examine this carefully. I am most appreciative for this insight.

Your willingness to be honest with the students is so impressive. It is exactly what we like our friends to do - to own feelings, to be willing to disclose feelings and truths as they are understood and known, to be willing to assume responsibility for self and action. You must be an incredible teacher to be open enough to do this with your students. Lucky students. :)

Fran aka Redondowriter

That Freudian slip really brought you insight. I bow to you, namaste. We all carry anger, but I kow I'm a "good" girl and I think I'm not mad until I get so inappropriately.

Tamar

You know, Richard, I think you are right about the gender thing. In any event, I think you are sharing what you have discovered about yourself and anger ... as a man. And I thank you for that.

Chancy,
Indeed, I have read Harriet Lerner (just about everything she has written, actually) and her "Dance of Anger" is still one of the greats on the subject. Thanks for reminding me about it. It will be helpful in my writing.

Milt,
Perhaps Richard's sharing about men's expression of anger resonates with you too?

Hm ... Lucyd ... I had to look up "yetzer" because I have no Yiddish! But I found it and smiled through your comment. Beautifully described! Thank you. Interesting. Unhealthy needs. My oh my.

Fran,
That "good girl" thing and then doing the anger "inappropriately" sure sounds familiar. Thank you for sharing that!

Hello Sky, thanks for stopping by. I liked the look of your site too. Since reading Geneen Roth I have noticed so many of my emotions are expressed through eating. It's hard work just realizing which ones and fascinating when I discover them. I can't imagine ever completely "un"learning them though - so deep, so ingrained into the brain as ways to survive - a survival skill that can kill me ... literally.

ainelivia

Thanks so much for this Tamar. I am so moved, by your openess and how you shared your feelings with those around you, and in a teaching situation too.

I'm in the middle of some right now, anger that is, and it's only been when I shared with Winston what was troubling me that I realised I had to do something to break the hold anger is having on me.

Tamar

Ainelivia,
Gee, I know how tough it is to be inside some angry stuff. Painful and confusing. Thanks for stopping by. I wish you great healing. Will hold you in my thoughts.

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